維基詞典:啤酒館/2014檔案

維基詞典,自由的多語言詞典

Request for comment on Commons: Should Wikimedia support MP4 video?[編輯]

I apologize for this message being only in English. Please translate it if needed to help your community.

The Wikimedia Foundation's multimedia team seeks community guidance on a proposal to support the MP4 video format. This digital video standard is used widely around the world to record, edit and watch videos on mobile phones, desktop computers and home video devices. It is also known as H.264/MPEG-4 or AVC.

Supporting the MP4 format would make it much easier for our users to view and contribute video on Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects -- and video files could be offered in dual formats on our sites, so we could continue to support current open formats (WebM and Ogg Theora).

However, MP4 is a patent-encumbered format, and using a proprietary format would be a departure from our current practice of only supporting open formats on our sites -- even though the licenses appear to have acceptable legal terms, with only a small fee required.

We would appreciate your guidance on whether or not to support MP4. Our Request for Comments presents views both in favor and against MP4 support, based on opinions we’ve heard in our discussions with community and team members.

Please join this RfC -- and share your advice.

All users are welcome to participate, whether you are active on Commons, Wikipedia, other Wikimedia project -- or any site that uses content from our free media repository.

You are also welcome to join tomorrow's Office hours chat on IRC, this Thursday, January 16, at 19:00 UTC, if you would like to discuss this project with our team and other community members.

We look forward to a constructive discussion with you, so we can make a more informed decision together on this important topic. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 2014年1月16日 (四) 06:47 (UTC)[回覆]

重要信息:管理員活動審核[編輯]

各位好。一項關於移除「高級權限」(管理員、行政員等)的新方針最近經由全域社群共識(你所在社群已得到了有關該討論的通知)通過。根據該方針,監管員正在審核小型維基上的管理員活動。根據我們了解的情況,貴維基並沒有移除非活躍帳號「高級權限」的正式程序。這就意味着,監管員將根據新的管理員活動審核制度來負責此事。

我們現已判定,下列用戶符合非活躍標準(超過2年無編輯、無登錄記錄):

  1. PhiLiP(管理員)

這些用戶很快會得到通知,告知他們如果希望保留部分或全部權限,應開啟社群討論。如果沒有回應,那麼他們的高級權限將會被監管員移除。

但是,如果貴社群希望創建自己的活動審核程序取代全域性審核,或對這些非活躍權限持有者作出其他處理,或已經有相關方針但我們並不知曉,那麼請通知元維基監管員,以便我們不再對貴維基的權限審核規則作出處理。謝謝, QuiteUnusual討論2014年1月20日 (一) 10:04 (UTC)[回覆]

已經放在Wiktionary:申請成為管理員#PhiLiP討論。--Liuxinyu970226討論2014年1月24日 (五) 06:59 (UTC)[回覆]
Please note that PhiLiP has edited again on 7 February, so the removal through m:AAR is impeded by it. That does however of course not prevent the local discussion about removal. --2014年2月20日 (四) 21:41 (UTC)
Withdrawn. (Special:Diff/4017471) --Liuxinyu970226討論2014年2月23日 (日) 03:23 (UTC)[回覆]

Amendment to the Terms of Use[編輯]

Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experiments[編輯]

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make Wiktionary better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.

Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:

Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!

Hope to have your participation,

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 2014年2月28日 (五) 19:44 (UTC)[回覆]

關於wiktionary發展方向的一些想法[編輯]

wiktionary是什麼?

  • 是個 「海納百川」 的 「在線詞庫」,收錄各種詞條,包括активацияモルモット? [ 天啊現在連參見模板都還沒有。Special:最近更改]
  • 是個單字字庫,收錄各種訓詁,並且鏈接向詞彙(這個工作量相當大吧)?是個字形字符數據庫,介紹各種舊體字?
  • 是個語源學參考網站,給出 OEDMerriam-Webster 上的標準詞源(如英文wiktionary那樣)?

我覺得,既然是中文詞典,就應該好好編寫漢語詞條,尤其是成語、多義詞、生僻詞 [看看這個分類頁面,拼音排序字形排序混用,還混進來英文成語…] ,而不要着重於漢英、漢日、漢俄等等。英語單詞成千上万,怎麼可能編寫得過來;而且想要查單詞的話,為什麼不去英文wiktionary查呢?就算我們電腦能力超強,把能找到的資源都搬過來,但是卻沒有多少人看,那又如何呢?換句話說,我比較懷疑維基詞典目前的自我定位;從某些網站導入(不知道我這樣理解機器人自動創建對不對?)本來就有侵權之嫌,導入之後,以目前維基詞典的版面格式,必然是亂七八糟,毫無可讀性。

簡而言之,敝人的想法是:
  • 更改過去一兩年間進行的大量創建空(漢語)詞條的方式,至少要有一種世界主要語言(英法德西俄阿日,等)的翻譯,最好是那種語言有頁面可以鏈接過去;否則什麼都沒有的頁面,老外也看不見,對漢語學習沒有任何幫助;華人更是不需要,尤其是上維基的華人。
  • 人工創建的主要精力放在成語、多義詞上。
  • 其他語言(尤其是英語)的詞條要保證最低質量,不要只有一個中文釋義;那和 google translate 有什麼區別?而且這樣的釋義極其不準確,往往就來自各種翻譯工具。

一些拙見,還請指教!SzMithrandir討論2013年12月5日 (四) 18:40 (UTC)[回覆]

Template:亦為參見模板。Wjcd討論2014年3月5日 (三) 06:29 (UTC)[回覆]

由於要將「c:設置為維基共享資源(Wikimedia Commons)跨維基快捷方式之一,大家是否同意將之改名。(新名字沒想好)--Liuxinyu970226討論2014年3月3日 (一) 09:09 (UTC)[回覆]

已於2014年3月10日 (一) 09:43由本人移動之。--Liuxinyu970226討論2014年3月17日 (一) 05:01 (UTC)[回覆]

Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment[編輯]

Hello all, in response to some community comments in the discussion on the amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing, we have prepared two optional changes. Please read about these optional changes on Meta wiki and share your comments. If you can (and this is a non english project), please translate this announcement. Thanks! Slaporte (WMF) 2014年3月13日 (四) 21:56 (UTC)[回覆]

Suggestion: Users Can Download Lexicons[編輯]

I'm a new latin learner and my classmates suggested me to use Wiktionary. But when I wanted to download the lexicons for my app, I failed. Can you guys add that option up? Djk討論2014年3月15日 (六) 12:20 (UTC)[回覆]

歡迎關注我即將為Wiki帶來的一個中文支持功能[編輯]

大家好, 在今年的Google Summer of Code項目中,我所申請的「為通用語言選擇器提供中文字體支持」項目成功入選,將在未來的三個月內完成這一工程,並爭取早日合併入主代碼庫。

工程概述[編輯]

如果一個頁面中包含了需要某種字體才能顯示的文字,而閱讀者的設備上沒有這種字體,就會顯示出無法閱讀的「豆腐塊」。這種問題對於中文尤為常見,因為很多非中文用戶的設備里沒有中文字體;而且中文用戶的字體庫里也不可能含有所有字符。我們知道漢字有8萬個以上,僅在Unicode中就定義了7万多,而實際上中文常用字很少,只有3500個左右。大多數用戶都只安裝了這些常用字,幾乎不可能有人安裝了包含所有漢字的字體。而Wiki作為一種包羅萬象的媒體,頁面上可能包含任何漢字。可以想象一下,我們寫一個「古漢字專題Wiki」或者「生僻漢字專題Wiki」,對大多數人來說它們將是無法閱讀的。

Webfonts技術是解決豆腐問題的一個辦法,已經在wikimedia中啟用。當發現頁面中的特殊字體無法正常顯示時,就從服務器上下載對應的字體文件。然而到目前為止wikimedia的webfonts仍然不支持中文,可能是因為中文字體太大了。即便只包含常用的3000多個漢字的字體文件,大小也會以數MB記,而我們要的是包含所有生僻字的解決方案,字體文件將達到幾十MB,無法想象在打開一個頁面時如果要加載這麼大的文件,誰還會願意打開。

本工程要解決的就是上述問題,主要完成兩件事: 1. 字體裁剪。針對每個頁面生成專用字體文件,比如某頁面只使用了107個漢字,就為它生成只含107個漢字的字體文件,大概只有10~20KB,下載速度極快。 2. 字體收集。如果頁面上包含了一個字形,連服務器的字形庫里也沒有,就秉持Wiki的貢獻和分享精神,提供一個接口鼓勵用戶製作這個字形並上傳給服務器。

解決了這兩個問題,你將幾乎再也看不到任何中文「豆腐塊」,你寫的包含任何漢字的wiki頁面,也幾乎可以被世界上任何讀者無障礙閱讀。

相關鏈接[編輯]

歡迎關注本工作的進展,提出意見、建議,試用、報告Bug等。

talk 13:20, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Pronunciation Recording[編輯]

Visual workflow draft for pronunciation recording gadget; If you have trouble watching this video here, watch it on vimeo. A more extensive/explanative version is available.

Dear Wiktionary community!

About me
My name is Rainer Rillke, and I have been volunteering at Wikimedia Commons for 3 years now, gathering experience around media files. I've been always interested in how things work and how one could improve them.
The idea
One idea that appeared last Summer was allowing the recording of small chunks of speech, uploading that to Wikimedia Commons in the background and including this into a Wiktionary entry without having the hassle doing everything by hand or installing additional software. That idea led to the foundation of MediaWiki extension PronunciationRecording during the Google Summer of Code. However, this was not completed; instead development is stale for over 5 months now.
My proposal
To make this going to work, so Wiktionary has an immediate benefit of this feature, I would like to provide the work done so far as a gadget and add some more work in regard to usability. You can see my plan at m:Grants:IEG/Finish Pronunciation Recording. And more importantly, you can give me a hand, if you are interested by writing your comments.

Thanks and kind regards --Rillke討論2014年4月7日 (一) 17:26 (UTC)[回覆]

This message was delivered based on commons:User:Rillke/gmd/prg. Translation fetched from: commons:User:Rillke/prg/en -- Rillke(q?) 17:42, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

2014年2月維基媒體亮點[編輯]

2014年2月維基媒體基金會報告維基媒體工程報告亮點,以及其他重要的維基媒體活動
Help complete the Chinese translation of the March 2014 Wikimedia Highlights
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Media Viewer[編輯]


Greetings, my apologies for writing in English.

I wanted to let you know that Media Viewer will be released to this wiki in the coming weeks. Media Viewer allows readers of Wikimedia projects to have an enhanced view of files without having to visit the file page, but with more detail than a thumbnail. You can try Media Viewer out now by turning it on in your Beta Features. If you do not enjoy Media Viewer or if it interferes with your work after it is turned on you will be able to disable Media Viewer as well in your preferences. I invite you to share what you think about Media Viewer and how it can be made better in the future.

Thank you for your time. - Keegan (WMF) 2014年5月23日 (五) 21:29 (UTC)[回覆]

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Using only UploadWizard for uploads[編輯]

Wikimedia Commons logo

Hello! Sorry for writing in English. It was noted that on this wiki upload is not fully functional for users, who will experience a very difficult and/or illegal uploading. In fact, the licenses/copyright tags dropdown is empty, making it hard or impossible to comply with copyright requirements during upload itself.

Presumably, you don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. I propose to have

so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.

All this will get done around 2014-07-03.

  1. If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list. Remember also to create MediaWiki:Licenses locally with any content (see a simple example), or uploads will be soon disabled anyway by MediaWiki itself (starting in version 1.24wmf11).
  2. To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.

Nemo 2014年6月19日 (四) 13:09 (UTC)[回覆]

中文見此,懶得拷翻譯了。--Liuxinyu970226討論2014年6月21日 (六) 11:53 (UTC)[回覆]

Media Viewer is now live on this wiki[編輯]


Media Viewer lets you see images in larger size

Greetings— and sorry for writing in English, please translate if it will help your community,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.

Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.

If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on MediaWiki.org in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.

We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 2014年6月19日 (四) 21:54 (UTC)[回覆]

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Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014[編輯]

On January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.

We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.

You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa

知道啦!--Liuxinyu970226討論2014年8月3日 (日) 01:18 (UTC)[回覆]

Changes to the default site typography coming soon[編輯]

This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:

  • April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
  • April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live

This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.

For more information:

-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team

知道啦!--Liuxinyu970226討論2014年8月3日 (日) 01:19 (UTC)[回覆]

Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions[編輯]

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.

-- JurgenNL (talk) 2014年8月21日 (四) 17:35 (UTC)[回覆]

Process ideas for software development[編輯]

』』My apologies for writing in English.』』

Hello,

I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.

I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.

Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 2014年8月21日 (四) 22:15 (UTC)[回覆]

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Grants to improve your project[編輯]

Apologies for English. Please help translate this message.

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th. Your idea could improve Wikimedia projects with a new tool or gadget, a better process to support community-building on your wiki, research on an important issue, or something else we haven't thought of yet. Whether you need $200 or $30,000 USD, Individual Engagement Grants can cover your own project development time in addition to hiring others to help you.

Change in renaming process[編輯]

Part or all of this message may be in English. Please help translate if possible.

-- User:Keegan (WMF) (talk) 2014年9月9日 (二) 16:22 (UTC)[回覆]

這邊的行政員:@JusjihShizhaoWjcd。--Liuxinyu970226討論2014年9月10日 (三) 05:15 (UTC)[回覆]

Meta RfCs on two new global groups[編輯]

Hello all,

There are currently requests for comment open on meta to create two new global groups. The first is a group for members of the OTRS permissions queue, which would grant them autopatrolled rights on all wikis except those who opt-out. That proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Creation of a global OTRS-permissions user group. The second is a group for Wikimedia Commons admins and OTRS agents to view deleted file pages through the 'viewdeletedfile' right on all wikis except those who opt-out. The second proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Global file deletion review.

We would like to hear what you think on both proposals. Both are in English; if you wanted to translate them into your native language that would also be appreciated.

It is possible for individual projects to opt-out, so that users in those groups do not have any additional rights on those projects. To do this please start a local discussion, and if there is consensus you can request to opt-out of either or both at m:Stewards' noticeboard.

Thanks and regards, Ajraddatz (talk) 2014年10月26日 (日) 18:05 (UTC)[回覆]

詞條質量評級?[編輯]

先前本人曾看過一些重要詞條,例如英文字母m,詞條完成度低,想想不能一直這樣下去,因此自己想了個詞典詞條質量評級的計畫,希望可以透過這一些標準增進詞條的品質。這個計畫目前尚還不成熟,不知各位維基詞典人們有甚麼想法?--R96340討論2014年10月29日 (三) 15:11 (UTC)[回覆]

的邊旁部首應為而非。如何查看Template:字形拆解中的對應代碼?C933103討論2014年11月21日 (五) 12:26 (UTC)[回覆]