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关于wiktionary发展方向的一些想法[编辑]

wiktionary是什么?

  • 是个 “海纳百川” 的 “在线词库”,收录各种词条,包括активацияモルモット[ Template:see also 天啊现在连参见模板都还没有。Special:最近更改]
  • 是个单字字库,收录各种训诂,并且链接向词汇(这个工作量相当大吧)?是个字形字符数据库,介绍各种旧体字?
  • 是个语源学参考网站,给出 OEDMerriam-Webster 上的标准词源(如英文wiktionary那样)?

我觉得,既然是中文词典,就应该好好编写汉语词条,尤其是成语、多义词、生僻词 [看看这个分类页面,拼音排序字形排序混用,还混进来英文成语…] ,而不要着重于汉英、汉日、汉俄等等。英语单词成千上万,怎么可能编写得过来;而且想要查单词的话,为什么不去英文wiktionary查呢?就算我们电脑能力超强,把能找到的资源都搬过来,但是却没有多少人看,那又如何呢?换句话说,我比较怀疑维基词典目前的自我定位;从某些网站导入(不知道我这样理解机器人自动创建对不对?)本来就有侵权之嫌,导入之后,以目前维基词典的版面格式,必然是乱七八糟,毫无可读性。

简而言之,敝人的想法是:
  • 更改过去一两年间进行的大量创建空(汉语)词条的方式,至少要有一种世界主要语言(英法德西俄阿日,等)的翻译,最好是那种语言有页面可以链接过去;否则什么都没有的页面,老外也看不见,对汉语学习没有任何帮助;华人更是不需要,尤其是上维基的华人。
  • 人工创建的主要精力放在成语、多义词上。
  • 其他语言(尤其是英语)的词条要保证最低质量,不要只有一个中文释义;那和 google translate 有什么区别?而且这样的释义极其不准确,往往就来自各种翻译工具。

一些拙见,还请指教!SzMithrandir讨论) 2013年12月5日 (四) 18:40 (UTC)

Template:亦為參見模板。Wjcd讨论) 2014年3月5日 (三) 06:29 (UTC)

Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014[编辑]

On January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.

We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.

You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa

知道啦!--Liuxinyu970226讨论) 2014年8月3日 (日) 01:18 (UTC)

C:[编辑]

由于要将“c:设置为维基共享资源(Wikimedia Commons)跨维基快捷方式之一,大家是否同意将之改名。(新名字没想好)--Liuxinyu970226讨论) 2014年3月3日 (一) 09:09 (UTC)

已于2014年3月10日 (一) 09:43由本人移动之。--Liuxinyu970226讨论) 2014年3月17日 (一) 05:01 (UTC)

Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment[编辑]

Hello all, in response to some community comments in the discussion on the amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing, we have prepared two optional changes. Please read about these optional changes on Meta wiki and share your comments. If you can (and this is a non english project), please translate this announcement. Thanks! Slaporte (WMF) 2014年3月13日 (四) 21:56 (UTC)

Suggestion: Users Can Download Lexicons[编辑]

I'm a new latin learner and my classmates suggested me to use Wiktionary. But when I wanted to download the lexicons for my app, I failed. Can you guys add that option up? Djk讨论) 2014年3月15日 (六) 12:20 (UTC)

欢迎关注我即将为Wiki带来的一个中文支持功能[编辑]

大家好, 在今年的Google Summer of Code项目中,我所申请的“为通用语言选择器提供中文字体支持”项目成功入选,将在未来的三个月内完成这一工程,并争取早日合并入主代码库。

工程概述[编辑]

如果一个页面中包含了需要某种字体才能显示的文字,而阅读者的设备上没有这种字体,就会显示出无法阅读的“豆腐块”。这种问题对于中文尤为常见,因为很多非中文用户的设备里没有中文字体;而且中文用户的字体库里也不可能含有所有字符。我们知道汉字有8万个以上,仅在Unicode中就定义了7万多,而实际上中文常用字很少,只有3500个左右。大多数用户都只安装了这些常用字,几乎不可能有人安装了包含所有汉字的字体。而Wiki作为一种包罗万象的媒体,页面上可能包含任何汉字。可以想象一下,我们写一个“古汉字专题Wiki”或者“生僻汉字专题Wiki”,对大多数人来说它们将是无法阅读的。

Webfonts技术是解决豆腐问题的一个办法,已经在wikimedia中启用。当发现页面中的特殊字体无法正常显示时,就从服务器上下载对应的字体文件。然而到目前为止wikimedia的webfonts仍然不支持中文,可能是因为中文字体太大了。即便只包含常用的3000多个汉字的字体文件,大小也会以数MB记,而我们要的是包含所有生僻字的解决方案,字体文件将达到几十MB,无法想象在打开一个页面时如果要加载这么大的文件,谁还会愿意打开。

本工程要解决的就是上述问题,主要完成两件事: 1. 字体裁剪。针对每个页面生成专用字体文件,比如某页面只使用了107个汉字,就为它生成只含107个汉字的字体文件,大概只有10~20KB,下载速度极快。 2. 字体收集。如果页面上包含了一个字形,连服务器的字形库里也没有,就秉持Wiki的贡献和分享精神,提供一个接口鼓励用户制作这个字形并上传给服务器。

解决了这两个问题,你将几乎再也看不到任何中文“豆腐块”,你写的包含任何汉字的wiki页面,也几乎可以被世界上任何读者无障碍阅读。

相关链接[编辑]

欢迎关注本工作的进展,提出意见、建议,试用、报告Bug等。

talk 13:20, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Changes to the default site typography coming soon[编辑]

This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:

  • April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
  • April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live

This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.

For more information:

-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team

知道啦!--Liuxinyu970226讨论) 2014年8月3日 (日) 01:19 (UTC)

Pronunciation Recording[编辑]

Visual workflow draft for pronunciation recording gadget; If you have trouble watching this video here, watch it on vimeo. A more extensive/explanative version is available.

Dear Wiktionary community!

About me
My name is Rainer Rillke, and I have been volunteering at Wikimedia Commons for 3 years now, gathering experience around media files. I've been always interested in how things work and how one could improve them.
The idea
One idea that appeared last Summer was allowing the recording of small chunks of speech, uploading that to Wikimedia Commons in the background and including this into a Wiktionary entry without having the hassle doing everything by hand or installing additional software. That idea led to the foundation of MediaWiki extension PronunciationRecording during the Google Summer of Code. However, this was not completed; instead development is stale for over 5 months now.
My proposal
To make this going to work, so Wiktionary has an immediate benefit of this feature, I would like to provide the work done so far as a gadget and add some more work in regard to usability. You can see my plan at m:Grants:IEG/Finish Pronunciation Recording. And more importantly, you can give me a hand, if you are interested by writing your comments.

Thanks and kind regards --Rillke讨论) 2014年4月7日 (一) 17:26 (UTC)

This message was delivered based on commons:User:Rillke/gmd/prg. Translation fetched from: commons:User:Rillke/prg/en -- Rillke(q?) 17:42, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

2014年2月維基媒體亮點[编辑]

2014年2月維基媒體基金會報告維基媒體工程報告亮點,以及其他重要的維基媒體活動
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Help complete the Chinese translation of the March 2014 Wikimedia Highlights
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Media Viewer[编辑]


Greetings, my apologies for writing in English.

I wanted to let you know that Media Viewer will be released to this wiki in the coming weeks. Media Viewer allows readers of Wikimedia projects to have an enhanced view of files without having to visit the file page, but with more detail than a thumbnail. You can try Media Viewer out now by turning it on in your Beta Features. If you do not enjoy Media Viewer or if it interferes with your work after it is turned on you will be able to disable Media Viewer as well in your preferences. I invite you to share what you think about Media Viewer and how it can be made better in the future.

Thank you for your time. - Keegan (WMF) 2014年5月23日 (五) 21:29 (UTC)

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Using only UploadWizard for uploads[编辑]

Wikimedia Commons logo

Hello! Sorry for writing in English. It was noted that on this wiki upload is not fully functional for users, who will experience a very difficult and/or illegal uploading. In fact, the licenses/copyright tags dropdown is empty, making it hard or impossible to comply with copyright requirements during upload itself.

Presumably, you don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. I propose to have

so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.

All this will get done around 2014-07-03.

  1. If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list. Remember also to create MediaWiki:Licenses locally with any content (see a simple example), or uploads will be soon disabled anyway by MediaWiki itself (starting in version 1.24wmf11).
  2. To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.

Nemo 2014年6月19日 (四) 13:09 (UTC)

中文见此,懒得拷翻译了。--Liuxinyu970226讨论) 2014年6月21日 (六) 11:53 (UTC)

Media Viewer is now live on this wiki[编辑]


Media Viewer lets you see images in larger size

Greetings— and sorry for writing in English, please translate if it will help your community,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.

Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.

If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on MediaWiki.org in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.

We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 2014年6月19日 (四) 21:54 (UTC)

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要求维基媒体基金会退回超级保护的公开信[编辑]

基金会刚刚引入了新功能——“超级保护”。这意味着本地管理员也无法编辑受保护页面,只有基金会官方职员可以。此功能暂时只应用到德语维基百科的MediaWiki:Common.js,然而此功能意味着,我们相信,仿佛甚至超过中国大陆般的网络封锁。

如果您认为这是不可接受的,请通过下面两个连接之一联署公开信。请不要同时在两个连接联署,这会给计票带来困难,我们建议维基词典编辑者使用连接1,非维基词典用户使用连接2.

-- JurgenNL (talk) 2014年8月21日 (四) 17:35 (UTC)

Process ideas for software development[编辑]

’’My apologies for writing in English.’’

Hello,

I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.

I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.

Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 2014年8月21日 (四) 22:15 (UTC)

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